回應挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團對本人的指責, 並重新強調被他們所忽略的碳-14檢測報告的真相(安德魯 A. 斯奈林博士.2011)

作者在這文章中首先宣述了自己對創世記的見解及對創世的立場,繼而反問影音使團現時有甚麼立場,怎樣相信聖經。最後作者逐一申辯影音使團《號外二》中列出反駁作者的六點「謬誤」及兩項批評。

認 「罪」!

首先,本人是一名相信聖經的基督徒。聖經,神的話,是我一切事上的終極權威。聖經不是一本科學教科書(幸好如此,因為教科書總是經常修改!)。既然聖經是神的話,其所記載的詳盡地球歷史,也就絕對正確。

因此,當神告訴我們,在創世記1章、出埃及記20章8-11節以及神用自己的指頭在石版上寫上如出埃及記31章15-18節所記載,神用我們一星期的工作天做單位,在六天之內創造宇宙萬有,我相信祂!而且耶穌基督、這位創造者的化身(約翰福音1章1-3節、14節;歌羅西書1章15-17節)教導我們,神創造萬有,亞當和夏娃與創世之初共存,不是創世之後幾十億年才出現(馬可福音10章6節;13章19節)。1

作為地質學家,本人讀到創世記6至9章,那裡記載神後來懲罰全地,因為反叛的人類作惡敗壞,到處有暴行。凡沒有進入方舟(神吩咐挪亞建立)的人類、活在地上和有氣息的生物,都給大洪水毀滅,大洪水水位暴升,甚至把天下所有高山及山嶺都淹沒(創世記7章11節、17-24節)。而耶穌基督,自為真理(約翰福音14章6節),永不會跟我們說謊;祂確認挪亞進入方舟,而洪水來就把所有都沖走了(馬太福音24章37-39節及路加福音17章26-27節)。祂說這懲罰是主再來作審判的警號。

這全球性大洪水何時發生?先把大洪水之後各後代,就是由閃到亞伯拉罕如創世記11章10-26節所記載的年壽逐一加起來,再計入亞伯拉罕後代在埃及地以至出埃及的歷史年期,截至所羅門開始興建聖殿(列王記上6章1節)的日期為止(因為這是一個可查證的考古日期),而大洪水可能發生於公元前2,300-2,400年或4,300-4,400年前。

假如相信這一切(這都是神的話明明的教導),令我成為「極端創造論者」(如挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團所指控),我認「罪」。

神的話在創世記7章17-24節清楚說明,全球被大洪水淹浸,連所有山嶺都浸沒了,而方舟之外地上一切的動物及飛鳥全都死掉。因此,基於神所描述的大洪水,就可以預期,許多生物、植物及海洋生物的屍體都被淹世大洪水所翻起的沙泥埋藏。換言之,我們確實有可能在水中沉澱的沉積物上,找到數以幾十億計埋在其中的生物及植物屍骸。我們又找到什麼呢?數以幾十億計的生物及植物屍骸化石就埋在岩層間,這些岩層一度是由鬆軟的沉積物在全球性大水中沉澱而成。

是故,作為「極端創造論者」和相信聖經的基督徒地質學家,本人相信,單憑神的話,煤、石油、恐龍、「寒武紀大爆發」的生物及其他化石,都是4,300-4,400年前一次性、全球性、淹山沒頂的大洪水所釀成。本人對挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團的指控,再次認「罪」!

究竟挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團相信什麼?

不過,在此懇請賜教──究竟挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團對於煤、石油、恐龍、寒武紀生物及其他化石的形成時期及過程有什麼立場?難度挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團不相信有關大洪水的神的話嗎?

當他們讉責我的文章有疑似「科學上的嚴重錯誤」時,他們並沒有鮮明主張,卻寧願追隨「主流科學」所言。他們引述或參考「主流科學」的出版物,作為嘲笑我的信念的基礎,並自言向「主流」科學家徵詢意見。

那麼「主流科學」有何主張呢?「主流科學」主張神沒有如實在六天內創造宇宙及萬有,並認為宇宙的誕生單憑自然而然的過程,在130億年前的大爆炸中出現。它更宣稱單憑自然而然的過程,地球在45億5千萬年前由太陽系原始星雲的一些塵埃湊合而成,然後在35億年前,生命單憑自然而然的過程出現,並在幾百萬年間進化,當中沒有神任何的介入。恐龍、寒武紀生物及其他動物及植物化石也只不過是生物幾百萬年來進化、生存及死亡的記錄。

「主流科學」永不主張有一個全球性、淹山沒頂的大洪水,因此,「主流科學」更不會主張在亞拉臘山上有可能出現漂洋過海的木製方舟遺骸。再者,「主流科學」主張人不能也不會行在水上、童貞女不會也不能誕下嬰孩,而死人不會也不能從墓穴中死而復活。

所以,本人就得再問,挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團究竟相信什麼?假如他們抨擊本人為「極端創造論者」(是他們的用語,不是本人自稱),那麼他們就必須公開地向支持者說明他們確實的立場和信念。

假如他們相信神的話,也基於這個理由一直去尋找亞拉臘山上的挪亞方舟,就已否定了「主流科學」有關方舟的主張,那麼他們憑什麼可以理直氣壯地責備我不跟隨「主流科學」呢?

「錯謬1:其詮釋碳14檢測結果的方法不被科學家普遍接受」

所謂的「科學家」,挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團指的是「主流科學家」,這班科學家拒絕接受神的話和祂清晰記述4,300-4,400年前大洪水及方舟的事跡,卻教條式地宣稱煤、石油及化石有幾百萬年歷史。

事實

  1. 碳-14的半衰期為5,730年.
  2. 即使整個地球上每一個原子都是碳-14,只要經過一百萬年,所有碳-14都會消亡,不存留任何碳-14。
  3. 即使「主流科學家」宣稱煤、石油及化石有幾百萬年歷史,但他們也在「主流科學家」期刊《放射性碳》發表報告,發現可量度的原位碳-14(並非由於污染造成)能從煤、石油及化石裡找到。

換言之,究竟「主流」科學家在碳-14測年法的可信性上犯錯,抑或在煤、石油及化石有幾百萬年歷史的宣聲上犯錯?與其指責本人犯錯,挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團不如回答這問題,因為他們欠支持者一個答案!

「錯謬2:未充分考慮木樣本體積、受污染及提取過程出現的問題」

事實

  1. 所有世界級「主流科學」的放射性碳實驗室,在進行碳-14檢測分析前,會把所有收到的樣本進行預先處理程序(本人已在原文詳實滙報,資料源自主管實驗室一名教授),這個預先處理的程序極為嚴苛,並特別設計出來除去任何因取樣情況及取樣手法而引致的污染物。
  2. 本人在報告中表示(挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團並沒有否認本人報告的真相),在四個木樣本中,有兩個樣本分別由兩間放射性碳實驗室檢測,而兩間實驗室雙雙證實這兩個木樣本為現代︰分別是1950年之後及120-135年。第三個樣本得出的碳-14年代只有610年。
  3. 即使實驗室被直接查問受污染的可能性,實驗室1並沒說年輕(近代)的木樣本是受污染所致。
  4. 兩間放射性碳實驗室,在檢測三個木樣本時獲得年輕的碳-14年代(即是說,相對方舟而言,木樣本太過近代);兩間實驗室也正確地分析三個木樣本的13C參數,因為該參數在計算及滙報碳-14年代是絕對必要。
  5. 兩間實驗室均匯報其碳-14檢測結果的誤差幅度±值。
  6. 第四個樣本,樣本D,是唯一在實驗室3進行檢測;然而,該實驗室並沒有按標準程序進行,也沒有量度δ13C參數或匯報誤差幅度±值,至少也沒有證據顯示該實驗室有按該等程序進行。

「錯謬3:忽視樹輪年代校正」

事實

  1. 本人的文章並沒有忽視樹輪年代法;相反,卻忠實地按挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團所提供的,如實匯報第四個木樣本的樹輪年代法詳情。
  2. 第四個樣本的碳-14檢測結果,其「大誤差」是引述自實驗室3所顯示的4,269-4,800年,誤差年期只有531 年。
  3. 第四個樣本的「日曆年齡」採用樹輪年代法計算,是引述自實驗室3所顯示的6,891 ± 4,647年或2,243-11,538年,誤差幅度達9,295年!
  4. 樹輪年代法不精確的原因,是由於不知明的木樣本年輪,一定要先經碳-14檢測年份,年輪才可以參考樹輪綜合年表在該時期的年輪數據作覆核。

「錯謬4:單一倚賴碳14測年法」

事實

  1. 本人已經在原文匯報碳-14測年法的限制,包括在遠古時代碳-14在大氣的含量估計不可靠,基於地球磁場轉變所致。
  2. 故此,挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團同意本人的看法,指碳-14在大氣的含量會因應地球磁場的轉變而有改變。
  3. 「主流科學家」有記錄顯示,碳-14測年法對於古老過公元前1,000年(即超過3,000年歷史)的樣本,檢測並不可靠。
  4. 基於這些理由,本人在文章中指出,來自方舟的木樣本的碳-14年代一定古老過4,800年。
  5. 由於碳-14測年法並不可靠(而挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團也同意此點),本人一直認為碳-14的年代需要校正(就是調整)。
  6. 諷剌的是,挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團為顯示碳-14不可靠而引述的兩段名句,正是本人20多年前整理編寫並出版的小冊子所套用的引文,至今仍然真實不假,他們又何必多此一舉,以本人昔日的見解來拒絕本人今天的言論呢?當時的我跟現在一樣,都是「極端創造論者」持非「主流」的立場。

「錯謬5:前設認定亞拉臘山上不可能找到方舟」

事實

  1. 聖經說,方舟停在「亞拉臘眾山上」(創世記8章4節)。
  2. 聖經沒有說方舟停在一座名叫亞拉臘的山上。
  3. 這兩個事實建基於英文聖經,該經文由原文希伯來文準確地翻譯出來。中文聖經譯本沒有明確指明,只說方舟停在「亞拉臘山上」。
  4. 有歷史記載亞拉臘山多次發生火山爆發,最近一次在19世紀發生。
  5. 有許多目擊證人宣稱他們曾在亞拉臘山見過方舟。
  6. 這許多目擊證人的口供,從沒有被客觀事實所驗證,就是公開給其他人調查,因此,看見實際的方舟或遺骸的宣稱,還是未經證實的。

「錯謬6:造謠生事中傷探索隊」

事實

  1. 挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團於2010年4月20日把所有的碳-14檢測結果交給本人。
  2. 本人於2011年11月9日把挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團所有碳-14檢測結果作網上文章發表。
  3. 介乎上述事實1及事實2之間的一年半(18個月)時間裡,挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團只曾公開報告第四個較有利的4,800年木樣本,而從沒有公開報告其他三個較不利的近代(年輕)木樣本。
  4. 這是事實而不是謠言或中傷。
  5. 有關第四個木樣本的碳-14檢測結果的可靠性,挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團能擺平所有謠傳或中傷的方法,就是公開檢測該木樣本的實驗室3的名字,並提供該樣本的δ13C參數分析結果,皆因所有真正的放射性碳實驗室均會提供該資料。

「真正事件經過如下,有電郵記錄為證」

事實

  1. 在2010年4月20的Skype視頻會議上,挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團的代表交給本人一份包含所有碳-14檢測結果的副本。
  2. 在Skype視頻會議上,本人告訴挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團的代表,其木樣本的碳-14檢測結果,強烈顯示木樣本並非來自方舟。
  3. 在Skype視頻會議之前因碳-14檢測結果所表現的雀躍之情,現在已蕩然無存。
  4. 作為相信聖經的基督徒及科學家,本人仍對挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團宣稱在亞拉臘山上發現的木結構感興趣,因為這仍有待徹底地調查,以判辨真偽。

「企圖壟斷研究,動機成疑」

事實

  1. 假如Answers in Genesis及本人企圖壟斷及操控方舟的研究,為何本人仍要等18個月才發表所有從挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團而來的碳-14檢測結果?
  2. 在這18個月裡,本人與Answers in Genesis所說及發表的言論,絕無貶低、攔阻、中傷、操控或壟斷任何由挪亞方舟國際事工、影音使團或其任何所屬公司,或任何其他方舟研究人員,就此事所進行的任何科學研究。
  3. 挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團並沒有說明,欲提出其所宣稱的亞拉臘山方舟發現的科學研究申請,申請人須提供一份聲明「會從閣下的專業範疇對挪亞方舟國際事工近期的發現分享個人觀點」。(我認為,當時有這要求其實暗示,只有申請人已同意該事工在亞拉臘山的木結構發現是真正的挪亞方舟,他們才可獲選參與該項研究)。
  4. 科學研究確實需要「百花齊放」,但不是由科學家的世界觀所主導。挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團似乎以為,邀請不接納聖經描述大洪水及方舟的「主流」科學家,來調查挪亞方舟國際事工所宣聲的方舟,就能做到「百花齊放」。然而,由不同世界觀推動的科學研究會令討論困難,意見無法一致。

「總結」

事實

  1. 挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團指出,在尋求科學意見時,「主要向主流的科學家徵詢」,換言之,他們尋求意見的對象,就是不接納聖經如實描述全球性、淹浸沒頂的大洪水及方舟的人。
  2. 假如碳-14測年法不甚可靠(但挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團至今仍相信),為何他們要在2010年4月25日在香港舉行新聞發佈會,宣佈在亞拉臘山上找到4,800年歷史的木結構呢?
  3. 假如碳-14測年法不甚可靠,為何挪亞方舟國際事工及影音使團現今會相信「木結構非常古老」,可追溯至「舊石器時代」(這是「主流科學」用詞),並指稱「其他同時代在近東的考古遺跡,其放射性碳年份,介乎公元前13,100至9,600年之間」,把大洪水及方舟時代推向一個較久遠的時期,超出聖經創世記年表,甚至超出地球的年齡?

由此觀之,究竟誰的言論不盡不實和草率?又誰在混淆教牧及神學界視聽?事實勝於雄辯。

Andrew A. Snelling博士於澳洲悉尼大學取得地質博士學位,專門研究澳洲北部省Koongarra 鈾礦的礦物學及地球化學。多年來,他在採礦工業中當礦場及研究地質學家,並以顧問身份參與澳洲核科技組織跟國際合作的研究計劃,研究的合作單位包括美國核管理委員會、美國多間大學、英國原子能研究所、日本原子能研究所、國際原子能機構及歐洲原子能機構。斯奈林博士25年來全時間參與地球地質證據的研究,確定創世記中災難性全球大洪水的歷史記載。他曾就岩石和化石的所有放射性碳測年法進行詳細的技術研究,並與其他人的研究一同展示這些方法是錯漏百出並嚴重誤導。他參與澳洲及美國基督教事工逾25年,堅信神話語的絕對權威,現任Answers in Genesis及美國肯塔基北部創世博物館的研究總監。


  1. 關於用耶穌的觀點看創世年期的扼要論述,可參考: Mortenson, T. 2004. But from the beginning of … the institution of marriage? (回應John Ankerberg 及 Norman Geisler在網上發表就馬可福音10章6節的討論文章). 3614. 詳細的學術討論,可參考: Mortenson, T. 2008. Jesus’ View of the Age of the Earth. In Coming to Grips with Genesis: Biblical Authority and the Age of the Earth, eds. Mortenson, T., and T.H. Ury, pp. 315-346. Green Forest, AR: Master Books.

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A Response to the Accusations of Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism by Emphasizing Truths They Have Ignored about My Carbon-14 Dating Report (Dr Andrew A. Snelling.2011)

Pleading “guilty”!

I am first and foremost a Bible-believing Christian. God’s Word, the Bible, is thus my ultimate absolute authority in all matters. The Bible is not a science textbook (thankfully, because science textbooks are always subject to change!). However, since the Bible is God’s Word, where it records details about the earth’s history it is absolutely true.

Therefore, when God tells us in Genesis 1 and Exodus 20:8–11, and writes with His own finger on stone tablets in Exodus 31:15–18, that He created everything in the universe in six days compared to the days of our work week, I believe Him! And Jesus Christ, the Creator Incarnate (John 1:1–3, 14 and Colossians 1:15–17) taught that God created all things and that Adam and Eve were there at the beginning of creation, not billions of years after the beginning (Mark 10:6, 13:19). 1

As a geologist, I read in Genesis 6–9 that God subsequently judged the whole earth because of the wickedness and corruption of a rebellious mankind and a violent creation. All of mankind and every land-dwelling, air-breathing creature not in the Ark (which God had instructed Noah to build) were destroyed by the Flood waters that rose violently to eventually cover all the high hills and mountains under all the heavens (Genesis 7:11, 17–24). And Jesus Christ, who is the Truth (John 14:6), and so would never tell us a lie, affirmed that Noah entered the Ark and the Flood came and took them all away (Matthew 24:37–39 and Luke 17:26–27). He said that judgment was a warning of the judgment to come at His second coming.

And when did this global Flood occur? By adding up the lifespans of the generations after the Flood from Shem to Abraham recorded in Genesis 11:10–26, and then adding the years of the history of Abraham’s descendants to the Exodus from Egypt and on to the date of the start of the building of Solomon’s temple (1 Kings 6:1), a date known archaeologically, the Flood would have occurred about 2,300–2,400 BC, or 4,300–4,400 years ago.

If believing all this, which God’s Word plainly teaches, makes me an “extreme creationist,” then I plead “guilty” as charged by Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism.

God’s Word clearly says in Genesis 7:17–24 that the whole globe was covered in water by the Flood, even all the mountains, and all land animals and birds outside the Ark died. Therefore, on the basis of God’s description of the Flood, it can be predicted that many of those dead creatures and plants as well as many sea creatures would have been buried in the sand and mud stirred up by the Flood waters covering the entire earth. In other words, we would surely expect to find billions of dead creatures and plants buried in sediments deposited by water. And what do we find? Billions of fossils of dead creatures and plants buried in rock layers that were once soft sediments laid down by water all over the earth.

So yes, as an “extreme creationist,” Bible-believing, Christian geologist I believe, based solely on God’s Word, that the coal, oil, dinosaurs, “Cambrian Explosion” creatures, and many other fossils were formed by the one-time, globe-encircling, mountain-covering Flood about 4,300–4,400 years ago. Again, I plead “guilty” as charged by Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism!

What do Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism believe?

However, this then begs the question—what does Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism believe about when and how the coal, oil, dinosaur, Cambrian creatures, and other fossils were formed? Doesn’t Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism believe what God’s Word says about the Flood?

It would appear, because they don’t exactly own up to what they believe in their denunciation of my “supposed serious scientific mistakes,” that they would prefer to follow what “mainstream science” says. They quote from, and refer to, “mainstream science” publications as their basis for ridiculing my beliefs, and write that they are seeking the opinions of “mainstream” scientists.

So what does “mainstream science” teach? It claims that God did not create the universe and everything in it in six literal days. Rather, the universe is supposed to have come into existence only by natural processes, with a big bang about 13 billion years ago. “Mainstream science” claims that only by natural processes the earth coalesced from some of the dust in the primitive solar gas cloud 4.55 billion years ago. Then about 3.5 billion years ago life spontaneously came into existence only by natural processes and then evolved over millions of years without any involvement from God. The dinosaurs, Cambrian creatures, and other fossilized animals and plants are claimed to be the record of creatures that evolved, lived and died over millions of years.

“Mainstream science” teaches that there never was a globe-encircling, mountain-covering Flood. Therefore, “mainstream science” does not teach that there is even the possibility of the remains of an ocean-going wooden Ark on Mt. Ararat. Furthermore, “mainstream science” teaches that men cannot and do not walk on water, virgins do not and cannot give birth to babies, and dead men do not and cannot be resurrected from the grave.

So again I ask, what does Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism believe? If they are going to “blast” me for being an “extreme creationist” (their term, not mine), then they must be transparent in telling all their supporters publicly exactly what they stand for and believe.

If they believe God’s Word, and they have been looking for Noah’s Ark on Mt. Ararat allegedly for that reason, thus rejecting what “mainstream science” teaches about the Ark, then how can they in all honesty and sincerity chide me for not following “mainstream science”?

“Mistake 1 – His interpretation of carbon-14 results is not generally accepted by scientists.”

By “scientists” Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism mean “mainstream scientists” who, instead of accepting what God’s Word clearly teaches about the Flood and the Ark only 4,300–4,400 years ago, claim dogmatically that coal, oil, and fossils are millions of years old.

Facts

  1. Carbon-14 has a half-life of 5,730 years.
  2. If every atom making up the entire earth was carbon-14, after only 1 million years all the carbon 14 would have decayed away and there would be no carbon-14 left.
  3. Measurable in situ carbon-14, not due to any contamination, has been found in coal, oil, and fossils by “mainstream” scientists as reported in “mainstream science” journals such as Radiocarbon, even though the same “mainstream” scientists claim the coal, oil, and fossils are millions of years old.

So are “mainstream” scientists wrong about the reliability of carbon-14 dating, or are they wrong about their claim that the coal, oil, and fossils are millions of years old? Instead of accusing me of a mistake here, Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism must answer this question. They owe their supporters an answer!

“Mistake 2 – Insufficient consideration of the problems raised by the size, contamination and extraction process of the wood samples.”

Facts

  1. All world-class “mainstream science” radiocarbon laboratories pre-treat all samples received for carbon-14 testing before analysis (as I carefully reported in my original article, quoting from a professor in charge of such a laboratory), and this pre-treatment is extremely harsh because it is specifically designed to remove any contamination due to field conditions and field handling.
  2. I reported, and Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism have not denied the truth of what I reported, that two of their four wood samples were each tested at two radiocarbon laboratories, and both laboratories certified those wood samples were modern: post-1950 and 120–135 years old, respectively. Their third sample yielded a carbon-14 age of only 610 years.
  3. Even when directly asked about the possibility of contamination, Laboratory 1 did not say those young (recent) ages were due to contamination.
  4. The two radiocarbon laboratories that carbon-14 tested these three wood samples as young (that is, too recent to be wood from the Ark) both correctly also analyzed the three wood samples for their δ13C values, because these values are absolutely necessary for the calculation and reporting of carbon-14 dates.
  5. Both these two laboratories also reported their carbon-14 test results with a ± error margin.
  6. The fourth wood sample, sample D, was only tested at Laboratory 3, but this laboratory did not follow standard procedures and did not measure the δ13C value or report a ± error margin. At the very least no evidence has been presented that they did follow such procedures.

“Mistake 3 – Ignoring the age calculated by dendrochronology.”

Facts

  1. My article did not ignore dendrochronology, but faithfully reported exactly the dendrochronology details for the fourth wood sample, exactly as supplied by Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism.
  2. The “wide margin” in the result of carbon-14 testing of the fourth wood sample is quoted, as per Laboratory 3, as 4,269–4,800 years, which is an error margin of only 531 years.
  3. The “calendric age” for the fourth wood sample, which calculation utilized dendrochronology, is quoted as per Laboratory 3 as 6,891 ± 4,647 years, or 2,243–11,538 years, which is an error margin of 9,295 years!
  4. The reason dendrochronology is so inaccurate is due to the fact that an unknown wood sample must have its tree rings first carbon-14 dated so that the tree rings can then be tested for cross-matching with tree rings in that time period in the master tree-ring chronology.

“Mistake 4 – Solely relying on carbon-14 dating.”

Facts

  1. I already reported in my article the limitations in carbon-14 dating, including the unreliability of estimates of the atmospheric content of carbon-14 in the distant past because of changes in the earth’s magnetic field.
  2. Noah’s Ark Ministries and The Media Evangelism therefore agrees with me that the carbon-14 content of the atmosphere has changed due to the changes in the earth’s magnetic field.
  3. “Mainstream science” has documented that carbon-14 dating is unreliable for samples older than 1,000 years BC (greater than 3,000 years old).
  4. It is for these reasons I stated in my article that a wood sample from the Ark must carbon-14 date older than 4,800 years.
  5. It is because carbon-14 dating is unreliable (and Noah’s Ark Ministries and The Media Evangelism agree) that I was claiming carbon-14 dates needed to be recalibrated (that is, adjusted).
  6. It is ironic that the two quotes Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism use to show carbon-14 is unreliable are also published by me in a booklet I compiled and edited more than twenty years ago. So, why should they reject what I say now based on what I said then, when I affirm both statements as true, and I was an “extreme creationist” and not “mainstream” then as I am now?

“Mistake 5 – Presuming that the Ark could not be found on Mt. Ararat.”

Facts

  1. The Bible says the Ark landed “on the mountains of Ararat” (Genesis 8:4).
  2. The Bible does not say the Ark landed on Mt. Ararat.
  3. These two Facts are based on the English Bible, which in turn accurately translates the original Hebrew. Chinese translations of the Bible do not make this clear, merely stating that the Ark came to rest “on Mt. Ararat”.
  4. There have been volcanic eruptions of Mt. Ararat in recorded history, as recently as in the 19th century.
  5. There are many eye-witnesses who say they have seen on Mt. Ararat what they claim is the Ark.
  6. These many eye-witness accounts have never been confirmed by hard objective evidence that is open to investigation by others. So it has not been proven that what they have claimed to see is in fact the Ark or its remains.

“Mistake 6 – Spreading rumors and slandering the exploration team.”

Facts

  1. Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism gave me all their carbon-14 dating results on April 20, 2010.
  2. I published all of Noah’s Ark Ministries International’s and The Media Evangelism’s carbon-14 dating results in my web article on November 9, 2011.
  3. During the year and a half (18 months) interval between Fact 1 and Fact 2 above Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism only ever publicly reported the seemingly favorable 4,800 year date for their fourth wood sample, and never publicly reported the unfavorable recent (young) carbon-14 dates for their three other wood samples.
  4. This fact is not a rumor or slander.
  5. All Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism have to do to silence all rumors or slander about the reliability of the carbon-14 dating of their fourth wood sample is to publicly name Laboratory 3, the laboratory that carbon-14 dated it, and produce the δ13C analysis result for that sample, which all genuine radiocarbon laboratories supply.

“The Actual Process, Supported By Email Records, Was As Follows:”

Facts

  1. During the Skype conference call on April 20, 2010, representatives of Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism gave me a copy of all their carbon-14 test results.
  2. During that Skype conference call I then told those Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism representatives that the carbon-14 tests of their wood samples strongly indicated that their wood samples could not have come from the Ark.
  3. As a result of the carbon-14 test results any excitement I had expressed earlier in the Skype conference call was now totally gone.
  4. As a Bible-believing Christian and a scientist, I still maintained an interest in the wooden structure Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism claimed they had found on Mt. Ararat because it still needed to be thoroughly investigated to determine exactly what it represented.

“Trying to Monopolize the Research; Suspicious Motives”

Facts

  1. If Answers in Genesis and I were trying to monopolize and manipulate research on the Ark claim, why did I wait 18 months to publish all the Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism carbon-14 test results?
  2. All through those 18 months, Answers in Genesis and I said and published absolutely nothing to disparage, hinder, slander, manipulate or otherwise monopolize any scientific research being undertaken by Noah’s Ark Ministries International, The Media Evangelism or any of their associates, or any other Ark researchers, for that matter.
  3. Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism failed to say that applications to participate in scientific research of their claimed Ark on Mt. Ararat required applicants to provide a statement “to share your point of view for the latest discovery of Noah’s Ark Ministries International on Mt. Ararat from your professional aspect.” (This requirement seemed to me at the time to imply that applicants were to be selected to participate in Noah’s Ark Ministries International’s research effort only if they already agreed that the wooden structures they had discovered on Mt. Ararat were indeed part of Noah’s Ark.)
  4. Scientific studies do “embrace diversity”, but are driven by scientists’ worldviews. Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism are suggesting that “mainstream” scientists, who do not accept the Bible’s account of the Flood and the Ark, should be investigating Noah’s Ark Ministries International’s claimed Ark in order to “embrace diversity.” However, scientific studies driven by such different worldviews would make discussions difficult and agreement impossible.

“Conclusion”

Facts

  1. Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism state that in seeking scientific opinions they are “primarily looking for mainstream scientist(s).” In other words, they want the opinions of those who do not accept the Bible’s account of the literal globe-encircling, mountain-covering Flood and the Ark!
  2. If carbon-14 dating is so unreliable, as Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism now maintain, then why did they announce a 4,800 year age for their wooden structure on Mt. Ararat at their Hong Kong press conference on April 25, 2010?
  3. If carbon-14 dating is so unreliable, why does Noah’s Ark Ministries International and The Media Evangelism now believe “that the wooden structure is very old” dating back to the “Epipaleolithic period” (a “mainstream science” term), for which they claim there are “radioactive carbon dates of archaeological relics in the Near East . . . between 13,100 and 9,600 years” BC, dates very much older than the biblical chronology in Genesis allows for the Flood and the Ark, or indeed for the earth itself?

So whose arguments are inaccurate and careless? And who is misleading and confusing the views of Christian leaders and theologians? The Facts “speak” for themselves.

*Dr Andrew A. Snelling has a Ph.D. in geology from The University of Sydney, Sydney, Australia for his research on the mineralogy and geochemistry of the Koongarra uranium deposit in Australia’s Northern Territory. For many years he worked in the mining industry as a field and research geologist, and was a consultant to the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation in a collaborative international research program involving the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission, several US universities, the UK Atomic Energy Research Establishment, the Japanese Atomic Energy Research Institute, the International Atomic Energy Agency and the European Nuclear Energy Agency. For more than 25 years he has been involved in full-time research on the global geologic evidences that confirm the Genesis historical account of the worldwide cataclysmic Flood. He has also conducted detailed technical research into all the radioactive dating methods for rocks and fossils, and along with the research of others has demonstrated conclusively that these methods are erroneous and grossly misleading. He has served for more than 25 years with Christian ministries in Australia and the USA that stand for the absolute authority of God’s Word, and is currently the Director of Research for Answers in Genesis and the Creation Museum in northern Kentucky, USA.

Footnote

  1. For a short discussion of Jesus’s view on the age of the creation, see: Mortenson, T. 2004. But from the beginning of . . . the institution of marriage? (a reply to John Ankerberg and Norman Geisler’s web article on Mark 10:6). For an in-depth, scholarly discussion, see: Mortenson, T. 2008. Jesus’ View of the Age of the Earth. In Coming to Grips with Genesis: Biblical Authority and the Age of the Earth, eds. Mortenson, T., and T. H. Ury, pp. 315–346. Green Forest, Arkansas: Master Books. Back

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